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Luke's avatar

It’s a really interesting and complicated issue, isn’t it? I certainly agree that the West should never have gotten involved in Iraq (it wasn’t our war) - but at the same time I don’t think that justifies countries in the Global South refusing to support Ukraine (and I know ‘not supporting Ukraine’ is not necessarily the same as ‘supporting Russia/Putin’). Again, it’s incredibly nuanced and I know there are many, many factors at play as to why each country chooses the allies it does. I guess that’s realpolitik for you.

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Mike Rodent's avatar

Hi Barbara, Heard the Correra show on R4: yes, good, but nothing new (for those of us long enough in the tooth).

AFAIR, the BBC was totally craven at the time, this is true. It's a great tradition that most Americans know F.A. about other parts of the world, so what would have been surprising would have been if even one of the US pure-junk media channels or outlets (ABC, NBC, Fox, Washington Times, NY Times, etc. etc.) had questioned the narrative from Bush and Blair.

But seemingly there were *some* strong enough alternative media sources in the UK: a million people, including me, marched in central London in February 2003 in protest. Correra also failed to mention the fact that Robin Cook resigned over the illegality and the pathetic nature of the WMD evidence.

But it's also important to stress that some voices even from Iraq at the time, *welcomed* the invasion, notably the Kurds, but also many Shi'ites. I remember seeing two Iraqis discussing the coming invasion in early 2003 on Channel 4 News: one was passionately against, the other passionately in favour. (Which is of course irrelevant to the question of legality).

A specific anti-Saddam agent at the heart of the Washington establishment, Ahmad Chalabi, was also instrumental in pulling the wool over the eyes of Bush and Blair's gullible military (in collusion therefore with Bush and Blair's already taken decision).

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